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Renting with Pets: An Interview with the Founder of Unmentionable Pets

Kim Concepcion is the Founder of Unmentionable Pets, a service that helps landlords and prospective tenants to resolve pet-related issues.

What does Unmentionable Pets do, and what is the meaning of your name?

 Unmentionable Pets shares information, resources, and personal stories focusing on housing issues faced by pet owners. My background in Property Management and Residential Real Estate gives me unique insight into what landlords want and need, and the goal of Unmentionable Pets is to create win-wins within the housing space.

The name comes from my own experiences. Often, renters do not want to “mention” that they have 3 cats, or a large dog, or even a reptile to potential landlords. This can later cause more issues for both parties. I thought the name would encompass many different situations in pet ownership (not just certain breeds or multiples), so we ran with it. We help pet owners, landlords, and the public in general with resources and options for facing a pet housing situation.

How did you come up with the idea for this service?

As a Realtor, over the last 10 years, the pattern would happen over and over, and over again. I would get a call, the person on the other end would be looking for a rental, and the first question they would ask me was: “Do you know if the landlord will take pet XYZ?” 

It would be a game of phone tag or outright no options to try and help place them in a rental. Many of them would just not say anything and call another agent pretending they did not have pets. I did not want that to be the reality. I created Unmentionable Pets to help share information with pet owners, and share resources with landlords about risk/reward options. We focus on how to get to a middle ground and support responsible pet ownership while paying attention to the landlord’s ROI (Return On Investment) and risk assessment from a business perspective.

My goal is also to help pet owners become homeowners and future landlords! With good fiscal choices, this helps to create more win-wins in the marketplace!

Have you ever had trouble finding pet-friendly housing? If so, how was the situation resolved?

Yes, I personally have had issues finding a home!

My husband is in the military, and most base housing has a list of banned dogs. However, my husband has wanted a pitbull-type dog since the day I met him. I always said no — not because of the dogs, but because we had to move a lot, and it was already hard to find something suitable for our family.

I didn’t want the added stress of having a pet that would be difficult to fit in that equation. So, our solution was that we knew we had to buy a home. From then on, we would be homeowners so that we did not have to let a landlord decide if the risk was worth it. That was 2009, and we have owned a home since then!

Do you have advice for property managers who are "on the fence" about no-pets (or breed restrictive) policies?

In my mind, it comes down to a few principles: communication, education, and willingness to serve responsible pet owners. 

The first is communication: Be willing to talk about why you would or would not like pet "XYZ" in your unit. Is there something you do not know? Is there more history or a compensation that can make it a win-win? Ask the questions and be willing to have a conversation.

No-pet policies, as well as weight and breed restrictions, are a major reason why pets are surrendered to shelters.

Real-life people and people on paper can be quite different: they might be as good as their resumé, or not. And many landlords are just following their routine – but they forget about the most important thing in the rental market: occupancy.

There is a huge cost to turn a unit year after year. If someone discloses a pet, put things in place to protect your investment. Good communication allows you to make these decisions, so let potential tenants be open and explanatory about their habits, plans, and lifestyle.

Education: Let’s be real! Pets represent a risk. There are good and bad pet parents out there, and their attitude can be decisive. But also, renting a home is always a risk! There are good and bad tenants, pet owners or not!

Know your options. Assess the risk/reward in each situation. What can be done to limit risk and protect your property? LOTS – over the last 3 years alone, more insurance carriers have put out low-cost options.

I have found, in my experience, that the owners who do not disclose their pets tend to cause the most financial damage to a property – physically and by not paying their rent on time. Good pet parents are really that: parents, taking care of their pets. They are grateful for a stable place to call home. Make sure this is the renter you are getting. Check references, check employment, do an internet search! Invest upfront to gather information so that you can make the decision that is most profitable in the long run.

You can protect your investment as well as offer a pet family a place to live. The more you encourage and fact-check potential renters, the more they are prepared and ready if they need to rent again.

Willingness: Like-energy people tend to find each other. I often see people who own pets themselves become great landlords to other pet owners. This keeps pets with their families and out of rescues/shelters. Is that not the goal, to keep pets with the families that love them?

Maybe this willingness to help others is how I was raised, but the other side of me says to rental communities and landlords: THIS CAN BE VERY PROFITABLE! More and more people are getting pets instead of growing their families. Therefore, they're typically taking proper care of their animals and have a stable income to make things right if something were to happen! See that as an opportunity to grow your real estate portfolio. 

Also, the innovators and successful people of most industries follow a plan, assess risk, but also break into new ground. You can stay status quo, but others will take advantage of this market and grow much faster.

Ask yourself:

-What are your goals?

-What is your timeline?

-What is the property rental history?

Everyone has a risk tolerance – find yours and see if there are win-wins to be had!  

What tips would you offer to people who are looking for pet-friendly rental housing?

The first one is to please be a good pet parent. Your actions will impact the landlord and indirectly hurt or help the next tenant! Everything is connected and you do make a difference. 

Do your own due diligence. Local laws, optional insurance – you must protect the landlord. Ask your vet, trainer, or pet-sitter for a formal recommendation. Be honest and upfront with as much detail as you can provide the landlord. The more information you give them, the better a decision they can make. 

Respect if they are not interested. It is their investment, and the fact is, right now, landlords have a lot of options. So, if it is a no, thank them and move on.   

Lastly, ask your network. Do you know anyone with pets like yours? Know any trusted agents to help? You might be surprised, if you just ask a few people, what options might be out there that you have not thought about. Or, of course, contact us and we'll be happy to help!

What is your service area, and how can people get more information? For those outside of your service area, do you have online resources?

Our team has the most knowledge of Hampton Roads Area of Virginia –think the towns of Norfolk, Virginia Beach, and Chesapeake. Also, San Diego County in California, and Lake County in Illinois.

Luckily, from my husband's time in the Navy, we know people who can help all over the country; thus why I can say coast-to-coast and really mean it! We are building our network slowly and would love referrals in any area for great agents, landlords, insurance people, etc., who share our passion for keeping pets and families together!

Our team has done a great job on our website, www.unmentionablepets.com, and you'll find us on other social media outlets as @unmentionablepets. So, make sure you take a look and give us a follow!

Is there anything else you'd like to say that our questions didn't cover?

The Unmentionable Pets community is focused on helping people, helping pets, and, in general, finding solutions. We are a place of education where questions are encouraged! There is always an answer – maybe not one you like, or maybe a tiny sacrifice, but there are always options! It's important to remember that we, the pet parents, are the ones who need to ask the questions!

I make it my personal mission to ensure our people are taken care of. Agents and Real Estate professionals can have a bad day, and that is something I want to know about so that I can have an opportunity to help or advocate for people with Unmentionable Pets. However, we are also a place of grace… let’s talk about it! Not every client goes with every agent, and vice versa! The goal is to find that balance on both sides and create the WIN-WINS!

Dreaming of Catios

 
Copyright: Pet-Friendly Planning 2015

Copyright: Pet-Friendly Planning 2015

I don’t have a catio. At the moment, I don’t even have a cat. When I did have cats, though, I longed to give them a safe outdoor space where they could enjoy the view and fresh air without the threat of being attacked by coyotes or hawks, or hit by a car. In addition to the many dangers faced by outdoor cats, I was concerned about the impact of my cats on birds and other wildlife*. So they stayed mostly indoors.

When the cats were older and a bit more sedentary, I started letting them spend time on the second-floor balcony of my bedroom. They loved sitting in the sunshine (or watching the rain), but eventually one of them started wandering further onto the roof and I had to rescind her privileges.

Copyright: Pet-Friendly Planning 2017

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We moved into our current house soon after that, and the cats were now spending most of their time in a big, sunny basement. (See blog post from 4/16/19.) My husband built a window box for them out of wood and screen so that they could look out and feel the breeze. Still, we were tempted many times to let them sit on the patio with us and explore the backyard under supervision.

Copyright: Pet-Friendly Planning 2016

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We toyed with the idea of adding a screen porch just outside the basement so that the cats could be “outdoors.” That prospect turned out to be too expensive, but our research led to all kinds of creative ideas that people are using to keep indoor cats safely connected to the outdoor world. You can see some of these ideas here. My favorites are “catios” (screened-in enclosures that range from simple lean-to structures, to elaborate cat houses with built-in climbing equipment) and “catwalks” (mesh tubes or tunnels that cats can walk through; usually attached to the house or laid across a yard/garden). In our search for pet-friendly amenities, indoor-outdoor spaces for cats tend to be among the most interesting. If you have found a great way to let your cat have controlled access to the outdoors, please share it in the comments or on our social media pages.

*Do you know of an outdoor cat or feral colony that kills birds? Click here to read about an easy solution.

Starting Again

It is spring, and there is a sense of renewal in our home. Whether it be returning to health after illness, re-connecting with old friends, or re-launching an unattended blog, this has been a time for starting again.

The past two years have flown by and brought big changes. One of the hardest has been the loss of three senior pets: Road Dog, the feisty old terrier mix rescued more than 12 years ago by our then-teenage son; Penny, our sweet, gentle chocolate lab mix; and Mercedes, our goofy, friendly, dog-like cat.

Whenever we lose a beloved pet, we are faced with the question of whether to adopt another. It’s easy to feel like we are trying to replace the one we’ve lost, which of course is impossible. Every beloved pet is unique and holds its own place in our hearts.

Then there is the question of dealing with loss itself. I often hear grief-stricken people say, “No more pets for me. I can’t go through that again.” And yet, we choose to go through it again and again because hundreds of thousands of animals desperately need someone to take them in.

We have welcomed several new pets into our family these past few years. Our pack now consists of two rescued Dalmatians (both originally purchased from breeders and later relinquished to the rescue groups from whom we adopted) and a playful young mutt who was found roaming the streets of Puerto Rico and brought to the mainland by rescuers and volunteer pilots.

Our love for these dogs will not diminish the memories and love of the pets who shared our life before them. This is a different time, with new memories to be made and new love to be shared.

Copyright: Pet-Friendly Planning 2019
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Copyright: Pet-Friendly Planning 2019